tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post2317886854371236747..comments2024-01-06T19:02:03.685-05:00Comments on Euphoria Before Total Implosion: Creeping Fees in Competitive Cycling: Part 2--Tour of the Battenkill Sets the Bar Higher Than Ever.RMMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-28396830484928062702015-06-14T12:25:11.258-04:002015-06-14T12:25:11.258-04:00Sing Your Style Studio ,founded by Stephanie Swann...<a href="http://www.singyourstyle.com/" rel="nofollow"> Sing Your Style Studio </a>,founded by Stephanie Swann, is the place for you! We will assist you to expand your range, smooth out all your breaks, free your voice from strain…and much much more! Learn to sing easily with flexibility and strength and discover and empower whats unique to you!<br /><a href="http://www.singyourstyle.com/" rel="Sing Your Style Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16846760453427048625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-48750541861346282432013-05-16T01:27:10.729-04:002013-05-16T01:27:10.729-04:00Hello Friends You are invited, Do you want online ...Hello Friends You are invited, Do you want online earrings, then follow and click bellow link<br /><a href="http://www.dollarsgurus.com/" rel="nofollow">Make Money Online</a><br /><a href="http://www.dollarsgurus.com/" rel="nofollow">Adsense</a><br /><a href="http://www.dollarsgurus.com/" rel="nofollow">Traffic</a><br /><a href="http://www.dollarsgurus.com/" rel="nofollow">Click for earn</a><br /Sree Uzzal Kumer Shahahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146459423782215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-90677241089712111802013-02-10T11:29:04.072-05:002013-02-10T11:29:04.072-05:00Hello.
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Obviously Dieter has a unique race. No one...Anon:<br /><br />Obviously Dieter has a unique race. No one denies that. No one denies his right to charge whatever he pleases for a race fee. What we are questioning is twofold: First, is $75 for Battenkill (at its current low level of race support) a good value? Second, what will $75 race fees mean for the rest of competitive cycling? <br /><br />The two above points have been belabored RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-91786866931497450642009-12-31T09:32:15.544-05:002009-12-31T09:32:15.544-05:00The races that Adam and Camm hold are great, just ...The races that Adam and Camm hold are great, just not as popular as ToB. If a race isn't selling out at $30 per person it certainly isn't going to sell out at $75. Dieter has a race the people want to do. Look at registration this year...1400+ in 24 hours. Supply & Demand folks. ToB is pretty unique compared to the Industrial Park circut races all over the place (which I am Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-4699302134445892292009-12-28T15:17:22.057-05:002009-12-28T15:17:22.057-05:00I'm in agreement with many of the previous tho...I'm in agreement with many of the previous thoughts. It's in the hands of each individual if he/she wants to participate. Sadly, I don't participate in triathlon due to the rising costs over the years, it seems cycling is taking the same route. I have just as much fun out on a "training day" with friends. I don't hold anything against capitalism, but I'd be more Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-70731895800246093452009-12-19T17:13:15.157-05:002009-12-19T17:13:15.157-05:00we are forgetting a very simple economic principle...we are forgetting a very simple economic principle here:<br /><br />supply and demand<br /><br />this race fills in minutes 4mths before it even happens. it has more riders than any other race in america.<br /><br />regardless of ToB's balance sheet, dieter has a product that is in demand and can rightfully charge what he wants for it...if it fills again this year, then plan on another mattehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184517168671245115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-74956721684581827692009-12-15T12:51:51.986-05:002009-12-15T12:51:51.986-05:00The comments on this blog are remarkable, it's...The comments on this blog are remarkable, it's reassuring that the sport never seems to change. Although I can't honestly comment on the costs incurred by the ToB I can make a few legitimate comments based on many many years of promoting bicycle racing in New England. From the early 80's Zephyr Cycling promoted the Downtown Danbury Crit, some of you 55+ may remember. For the past John Hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354848531805156249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-16180232852944865352009-12-09T22:57:36.144-05:002009-12-09T22:57:36.144-05:00I refuse to race Batenkill and Jamestown. The entr...I refuse to race Batenkill and Jamestown. The entry fees are outrageous. I put on a cross race this year. $25 entry fee. 100% went to an organization in town. I wrote them a $2000 check. Everyone had a fun time. We need to get back to the time when races used to support clubs and causes; not some greedy promoter's wallet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-11237144177202328902009-12-05T16:05:15.414-05:002009-12-05T16:05:15.414-05:00RMM: I agree that triathlon and cycling are compl...RMM: I agree that triathlon and cycling are completely different. The main point of the post is that people will pay steep fees and will not blink. know that $75 for ToB is quite steep. What concerns me more is that other promoters will see this and race fees are going to skyrocket. But nonetheless, we won't know how the $75 fee will be affect the race until registration opens. All we Rick G.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-23985871546341730242009-12-04T14:46:31.447-05:002009-12-04T14:46:31.447-05:00Rick G:
Triathlon is an entirely different kind o...Rick G:<br /><br />Triathlon is an entirely different kind of event than a straight bicycle race. It is more complicated to run; insurance probably costs more. I don't have the expertise to comment on the value of a $450 Ironman.<br /><br />But, saying the promoter "made" $1.2 million in 3 minutes is rather misleading. They took in $1.2 million which they will use to pay RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-85521805983672317542009-12-04T14:29:34.025-05:002009-12-04T14:29:34.025-05:00Dieter will get the $75 per rider. There is anoth...Dieter will get the $75 per rider. There is another event which makes me laugh every year that charges rediculus fees: Ironman. Ameteur racers that drop $450 for a race fee so that they can end up in a medical tent. Ironman Lake Placid sold out in 3 minutes a few years back. They made $1.2 Million in 3 minutes! People will pay........Rick G.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-64669712116442522532009-12-04T13:24:07.351-05:002009-12-04T13:24:07.351-05:00I will be at Ninigret trying to hang on Johny'...I will be at Ninigret trying to hang on Johny's wheel. I agree with him, BK is a great race but not at $75. I seem to remember lots of grumbling last year about course safety too. It was downright dangerous on some downhill sections with dirt off-camber corners last year. Spending $75 to flat or washout on an off-camber, dirt corner is not the way to start the season.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-89549175657767441512009-12-04T06:56:52.839-05:002009-12-04T06:56:52.839-05:00What a thread. In the on/off time I've taken ...What a thread. In the on/off time I've taken to read this, I've:<br /><br />wasted $120 of my employer's money<br />gotten 2 flats = $10 in tubes, $3 in CO2<br />subscribed to $30 in cycling magazines<br />spent $75 in gas going to a race & $30 in entry fees<br />bought $80 worth of winter road tires<br />spent $200 for my 2010 team kit<br /><br /><br />All this and I think I am Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-20555219107985849902009-12-03T20:02:15.470-05:002009-12-03T20:02:15.470-05:00Zenn, You make some excellent points. I was one of...Zenn, You make some excellent points. I was one of those riders that got passed up by the wheel vans and that sucked, then it rained. I was so turned off by the whole event last year and you described it well as a clusterfuck. The results are usually fine when JD handles things. I didn't include the 2 brand new tubulars I spent all week gluing up which were both on the 1st ride. That was Jonny Boldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11530640056245931041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-68732012122862441372009-12-03T12:05:56.291-05:002009-12-03T12:05:56.291-05:00Johnny, you stated that to go to this race will co...Johnny, you stated that to go to this race will cost you over $500 bucks. If the entry fee were in the current norm of ~$30, it would still cost you over $450 to go to the race. Is a %10 increase in the total cost to you the _real_ reason you don't want to go? <br /><br />The reason I'm still leaning towards going is just that. It's 3 hour drive for me. Worst case is that I'll zencyclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00972746221081909463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-75662319188155593372009-12-02T18:33:15.375-05:002009-12-02T18:33:15.375-05:00Oh ya......Seriously, who wants a T-shirt that rep...Oh ya......Seriously, who wants a T-shirt that represents a race you did. Why not write the race numbers on our flesh in indelible magic markers so we can all walk around in public later showing off our participation. I would honestly rather have a clean rag put in my race bag to wash the bike with after the race.<br /><br />T-Shirts.....you gotta be friggen kidding me! Give them to the Jonny Boldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11530640056245931041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-17360816446807446102009-12-02T18:25:41.969-05:002009-12-02T18:25:41.969-05:00I thought the fee last year was too high. I think ...I thought the fee last year was too high. I think it was $45. For me, the race is over 4 hours drive time each way. At least $75 worth of gas and a mandatory day out of work to drive out there on the Friday before. Add in eating out (luckily I have a friend with a place close by) and the event ends up costing me over $500 without a hotel room. I double flatted about halfway through the race. Jonny Boldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11530640056245931041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-18951097253310461762009-12-01T10:26:34.508-05:002009-12-01T10:26:34.508-05:0085$ for 3h race
4 hour drive each way
50$ gas
100 ...85$ for 3h race<br />4 hour drive each way<br />50$ gas<br />100 $ hotel<br />1 flat tire in mile 3 = pricelessUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03861983171813378929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-80977495471111921982009-11-28T16:59:10.074-05:002009-11-28T16:59:10.074-05:00it's. not. about. cost. of. entry.
once again...it's. not. about. cost. of. entry.<br /><br />once again, it's about value. is bk a good value at this cost? after the problems last year, i certainly didn't expect a 66.6% increase in reg fee. i expected a pretty public "sorry about the growing pains - we'll do better." instead i got a still higher fee (by $30) and i'm being told i get a cool tshirt. i question the iworedettoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04681679163741183574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-14951785726542028782009-11-27T19:34:43.584-05:002009-11-27T19:34:43.584-05:00if you are able to afford th sport of cycling to b...if you are able to afford th sport of cycling to begin with consider yourself blessed...you are part of a small minority of people who can particiapte in such a great sport...the equipment is expensive and it costs money to race...but to complain about a race fee? seriously? is anyone complaining about how much a tire cost? or a new bike? i play golf and if i cant afford to pay the green fees at logicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-6329660305796031412009-11-26T21:11:00.941-05:002009-11-26T21:11:00.941-05:00Zack:
It gratifies me that my writing and wit are...Zack:<br /><br />It gratifies me that my writing and wit are slightly less irritating than unsolicited emails. <br /><br />Glad to have you as a reader.RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-20540681285055960042009-11-26T16:14:38.976-05:002009-11-26T16:14:38.976-05:00those e-mails are sent out via bikereg I think. bi...those e-mails are sent out via bikereg I think. bikereg has an unsubscribe thing now that you can use to take yourself off the list.awondernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-53651225464366629822009-11-26T14:28:25.795-05:002009-11-26T14:28:25.795-05:00I have nothing substantial to add, except that for...I have nothing substantial to add, except that for some reason 3 or 4 years after doing Battenkill I am still on the damned email list getting updates no matter how many times I've emailed Dieter. The only thing more irritating that reading something by RMM is getting those damn Battenkill emails.zackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270062773459704299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-30793862002902832012009-11-25T11:06:51.690-05:002009-11-25T11:06:51.690-05:00Wow lots of different views on this one, I guess I...Wow lots of different views on this one, I guess I’ll give mine. I have raced the Battenkill every year from the beginning of it. The 1st year I raced as a cat5 this year I hope to race in the UCI race. I know this race is VARY expensive to put on but as Adam said if you didn’t make a profit last year you’re doing something wrong. The prize list is pathetic I was top 10 last year and didn’t even Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com