tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post7186909389085471664..comments2024-01-06T19:02:03.685-05:00Comments on Euphoria Before Total Implosion: Treatment of Former Dopers--Tyler HamiltonRMMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-83591744793459849142010-02-01T11:52:20.199-05:002010-02-01T11:52:20.199-05:00Last I heard, Tyler moved back to Boulder, so you ...Last I heard, Tyler moved back to Boulder, so you probably will not be running into him.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346374620542125668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-72481426308943539092009-08-25T16:11:05.017-04:002009-08-25T16:11:05.017-04:00Hate to say it but take a look at a recent picture...Hate to say it but take a look at a recent picture. Ever see long term exposure to use of corticosteroids? He could be the poster boy for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-16818877111501711222009-08-06T14:30:03.093-04:002009-08-06T14:30:03.093-04:00Adam:
Whack a Mole indeed.
It seems like he aim...Adam:<br /><br />Whack a Mole indeed. <br /><br />It seems like he aims to stick around. And he'll likely be successful (at least in staying). Unlike the hardcore scene, there is no FSU or Wrecking Crew to kick his ass and kick him out.RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-6776547390591131832009-08-06T13:55:19.631-04:002009-08-06T13:55:19.631-04:00I don't think anyone's kicking him when he...I don't think anyone's kicking him when he's down. The criticism is typically a reaction to something, more like whack-a-mole. He just needs to stop poking his head back up into cycling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-64240228218547318062009-08-06T11:28:48.133-04:002009-08-06T11:28:48.133-04:00Adam:
If I was looking for a coach, I would only ...Adam:<br /><br />If I was looking for a coach, I would only consider someone who I knew personally and who I trust implicitly. Tyler doesn't meet either of those criteria for me since I don't know him. <br /><br />Second, as I have pointed out and continue to acknowledge, I am an objective outside observer, who has not been personally harmed by Tyler. As such, I want to point somethingRMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-72791121537564398952009-08-06T10:37:00.970-04:002009-08-06T10:37:00.970-04:00I'm saying that more than Puritans, we're ...I'm saying that more than Puritans, we're Catholics around here. And whether you're a believer or not, we all love the idea of confession and redemption. Tyler never did the first, and shouldn't get the second.<br /><br />He has a right work, and a right to health and happiness. But he has no "right" for any of that to come from cycling at this point, ethically or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-58934639827821948432009-08-06T10:03:33.302-04:002009-08-06T10:03:33.302-04:00Adam:
Oh, I didn't realize that Tyler's b...Adam:<br /><br />Oh, I didn't realize that Tyler's ban extends beyond just racing. That changes my opinion of the matter. I don't support his violating his penalty. <br /><br />See, I knew that I was looking forward to your comment.<br /><br />To nitpick, while I agree with your insider trading convict metaphor, I don't agree with the conclusion. Some of the best traders in RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-83927398817720858232009-08-06T09:51:31.272-04:002009-08-06T09:51:31.272-04:00First off, the ban is supposed to cover any involv...First off, the ban is supposed to cover any involvement in the sport, including coaching. At the very least he won't be able to get a USAC coaching license, which is where we get our insurance.<br /><br />Second, hiring Tyler as a coach is like hiring someone convicted for insider trading to be your stock broker. Or maybe a guy in jail for cooking the books at Enron as your accountant. And heAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-34721695932453623972009-08-05T22:39:51.692-04:002009-08-05T22:39:51.692-04:00The UCI rules said that riders has a second chance...The UCI rules said that riders has a second chance after the first violation. Millar came back and Hamilton came back too but was caught a second time and he is now suspended for doping... There is plenty of good coach in NE and the best athletes doesn't translate to the best coach? Hamilton should not be involved in bike racing for now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-44896895823100335382009-08-05T22:36:35.397-04:002009-08-05T22:36:35.397-04:00I view doping as a part of sport that will never g...I view doping as a part of sport that will never go away. Obviously the advances in testing procedures has made it more apparent than in the past, but only a select few will ever know if it's a bigger problem now than in the past. Millar's stance sits the best with me, I hate the denial, but the worst is a a guy like Kohl who just throws people under the bus because he was the one who Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16620003009118276251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-81782773418043698952009-08-05T22:13:00.321-04:002009-08-05T22:13:00.321-04:00Rosey/Gary:
I view Millar's owning up to dopi...Rosey/Gary:<br /><br />I view Millar's owning up to doping as a calculated strategy untaken to minimize the PR damage that his doping violation caused. If Millar thought that he would have fared better by denying his doping, I am pretty sure that he would have done that instead. He played his cards well. But thinking that his confession came from some higher moral fiber is purposefully RMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586927082756267932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-48888673694113416422009-08-05T20:49:47.334-04:002009-08-05T20:49:47.334-04:00agreed, rosey.
i neither like nor respect doping; ...agreed, rosey.<br />i neither like nor respect doping; however millar got caught, manned up, took his punishment, and came back vowing to be clean again.<br />hamilton got caught, denied it, fought it, etc (i'm not 100% clear on all the details), came back, and got caught again.<br />if you're not sorry, if you feel it was something you had to do, then say that; you don't NEED to be gary!https://www.blogger.com/profile/00639638395088075434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-31777788099505425352009-08-05T14:39:51.322-04:002009-08-05T14:39:51.322-04:00At least Millar was man enough to own up to it. H...At least Millar was man enough to own up to it. Hamilton and Landis both wasted thousands of dollars trying to clear their guilty names. I don't respect people who try to get out of taking responsibility for their actions due to a technicality or a lawyer's skill.<br /><br />Suck it up, admit it, take the punishment and then people might believe you when you say you're sorry for Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09283988150013827871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3026613116977314546.post-14879675455101496482009-08-05T14:27:11.047-04:002009-08-05T14:27:11.047-04:00I'm pretty sure Adam has already made his opin...I'm pretty sure Adam has already made his opinion of Tyler and those who choose to dope <a href="http://www.cycle-smart.com/search/node/tyler" rel="nofollow">pretty clear</a>.Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.com